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	<title>Comments on: Top 10 Things To Fix for Opera&#8217;s SVG Implementation</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff Schiller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Schiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 12:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chaals,

Actually the SVG 1.1 Full specification states at http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/conform.html#ConformingSVGViewers:

If the user agent includes an HTML or XHTML viewing capability or can apply CSS/XSL styling properties to XML documents, then a Conforming SVG Viewer must support resources of MIME type &quot;image/svg+xml&quot; wherever raster image external resources can be used, such as in the HTML or XHTML &#039;img&#039; element and in CSS/XSL properties that can refer to raster image resources (e.g., &#039;background-image&#039;).

The SVGT 1.2 spec also explicitly states in a similar paragraph:

&quot;If the user agent can apply CSS/XSL styling properties to XML documents (including XHTML, SMIL, or XForms documents), then a Conforming SVG Viewer must support resources of MIME type &quot;image/svg+xml&quot; in CSS/XSL properties that can refer to raster image resources (e.g., &#039;background-image&#039;).&quot;

However I will concede that SVGT 1.1 does NOT explicitly state this.  It has the following paragraph:

If the user agent includes a CSS2 capability, a Conforming SVG Viewer SHOULD support CSS styling of SVG content and SHOULD support all features from CSS Mobile Profile.

Note that &quot;CSS Mobile Profile&quot; (http://www.w3.org/TR/css-mobile#section-properties) DOES include &#039;background-image&#039;.

Anyway, the bottom line is:  This would be a great feature to have.  With it, I would be able to specify that a div has a SVG background, and combined with the ability to specify percentages for the svg element width/height, the background image would scale with the browser window.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chaals,</p>
<p>Actually the SVG 1.1 Full specification states at <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/conform.html#ConformingSVGViewers" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/conform.html#ConformingSVGViewers</a>:</p>
<p>If the user agent includes an HTML or XHTML viewing capability or can apply CSS/XSL styling properties to XML documents, then a Conforming SVG Viewer must support resources of MIME type &#8220;image/svg+xml&#8221; wherever raster image external resources can be used, such as in the HTML or XHTML &#8216;img&#8217; element and in CSS/XSL properties that can refer to raster image resources (e.g., &#8216;background-image&#8217;).</p>
<p>The SVGT 1.2 spec also explicitly states in a similar paragraph:</p>
<p>&#8220;If the user agent can apply CSS/XSL styling properties to XML documents (including XHTML, SMIL, or XForms documents), then a Conforming SVG Viewer must support resources of MIME type &#8220;image/svg+xml&#8221; in CSS/XSL properties that can refer to raster image resources (e.g., &#8216;background-image&#8217;).&#8221;</p>
<p>However I will concede that SVGT 1.1 does NOT explicitly state this.  It has the following paragraph:</p>
<p>If the user agent includes a CSS2 capability, a Conforming SVG Viewer SHOULD support CSS styling of SVG content and SHOULD support all features from CSS Mobile Profile.</p>
<p>Note that &#8220;CSS Mobile Profile&#8221; (<a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/css-mobile#section-properties" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3.org/TR/css-mobile#section-properties</a>) DOES include &#8216;background-image&#8217;.</p>
<p>Anyway, the bottom line is:  This would be a great feature to have.  With it, I would be able to specify that a div has a SVG background, and combined with the ability to specify percentages for the svg element width/height, the background image would scale with the browser window.</p>
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		<title>By: chaals</title>
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		<dc:creator>chaals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm. I don&#039;t think that your number one request is really a violation of any spec, since HTML failed (unlike SVG) to specify any required content types that must be supported, &lt;strong&gt;if&lt;/strong&gt; I have understood correctly what you are asking for... That said, yeah - noted. Thanks for running the tests, by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. I don&#8217;t think that your number one request is really a violation of any spec, since HTML failed (unlike SVG) to specify any required content types that must be supported, <strong>if</strong> I have understood correctly what you are asking for&#8230; That said, yeah &#8211; noted. Thanks for running the tests, by the way.</p>
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