Comments on: Heroes Returns, Paradoxes Remain http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2007/04/27/heroes-returns-paradoxes-remain/ Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:56:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jeff Coleman http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2007/04/27/heroes-returns-paradoxes-remain/comment-page-1/#comment-712 Jeff Coleman Wed, 23 May 2007 15:46:00 +0000 http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2007/04/27/heroes-returns-paradoxes-remain/#comment-712 "Turning horned-rimmed glasses man from the villain (I’m sure he was originally intended to be “Sylar”) into a pseudo-good guy." THIS was the point, for me, where I stopped caring about virtually anything that happened on this show. Nobody else seemed to feel the same way, either! I just did not buy Mr Bennett's redemption, because to me he was still the "face of evil" who'd been doing all this horrible shit to the heroes for the whole season. I saw no reason for Parkman and Ted to go along with him or to trust him. Sure, Parkman can read his mind and see he's not LYING, but Parkman still does exactly what Bennett tells him to without hestitation and it makes no sense. “Turning horned-rimmed glasses man from the villain (I’m sure he was originally intended to be “Sylar”) into a pseudo-good guy.”

THIS was the point, for me, where I stopped caring about virtually anything that happened on this show. Nobody else seemed to feel the same way, either! I just did not buy Mr Bennett’s redemption, because to me he was still the “face of evil” who’d been doing all this horrible shit to the heroes for the whole season. I saw no reason for Parkman and Ted to go along with him or to trust him. Sure, Parkman can read his mind and see he’s not LYING, but Parkman still does exactly what Bennett tells him to without hestitation and it makes no sense.

]]> By: Jeff Schiller http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2007/04/27/heroes-returns-paradoxes-remain/comment-page-1/#comment-711 Jeff Schiller Wed, 02 May 2007 23:15:50 +0000 http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2007/04/27/heroes-returns-paradoxes-remain/#comment-711 brian - interesting theory, we'll see if it plays out that way. I agree - Peter or Sylar (or Ted) could have survived the explosion without Claire's power. Monday's episode revealed that Future Hiro tried to kill Sylar in 2007 but that he regenerated and that Hiro (and the world) thought the explosion was caused by Sylar. This is why Future Hiro goes back into the past to tell Peter to save the cheerleader, so that when Hiro stabs him, he won't regenerate. So "Five Years Gone" explained away the paradox I present in this blog entry... Interestingly, after Future Hiro did this, he returns to the future in this new timeline and finds out that the explosion still took place (though the cheerleader was saved and still alive). It will be interesting in the next episode or two when we learn what really caused the explosion after all (still assuming it was Peter based on Isaac and Peter's visions). But worse yet, "present" Hiro and Ando also appear in the future - the new paradox that arises is: If "present" Hiro teleported to the future, then how did Peter and others in that future world know who Hiro is? If he teleported away prior to the explosion, did the universe somehow "know" that he would teleport back into the present day and then subsequently NOT stop the explosion? Seems we've already established that when Hiro time-travels to the future, that he just disappears from the present (when Hiro first teleported to New York he calls Ando and Ando says he's been missing for weeks). Doesn't make sense to me yet... brian – interesting theory, we’ll see if it plays out that way.

I agree – Peter or Sylar (or Ted) could have survived the explosion without Claire’s power. Monday’s episode revealed that Future Hiro tried to kill Sylar in 2007 but that he regenerated and that Hiro (and the world) thought the explosion was caused by Sylar. This is why Future Hiro goes back into the past to tell Peter to save the cheerleader, so that when Hiro stabs him, he won’t regenerate. So “Five Years Gone” explained away the paradox I present in this blog entry…

Interestingly, after Future Hiro did this, he returns to the future in this new timeline and finds out that the explosion still took place (though the cheerleader was saved and still alive). It will be interesting in the next episode or two when we learn what really caused the explosion after all (still assuming it was Peter based on Isaac and Peter’s visions). But worse yet, “present” Hiro and Ando also appear in the future – the new paradox that arises is: If “present” Hiro teleported to the future, then how did Peter and others in that future world know who Hiro is? If he teleported away prior to the explosion, did the universe somehow “know” that he would teleport back into the present day and then subsequently NOT stop the explosion? Seems we’ve already established that when Hiro time-travels to the future, that he just disappears from the present (when Hiro first teleported to New York he calls Ando and Ando says he’s been missing for weeks). Doesn’t make sense to me yet…

]]> By: brian http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2007/04/27/heroes-returns-paradoxes-remain/comment-page-1/#comment-710 brian Wed, 02 May 2007 21:07:57 +0000 http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2007/04/27/heroes-returns-paradoxes-remain/#comment-710 In reference to the genetics being passed on, it's about a gene that "develops". In one episode they say that "Claire's ability hasn't developed yet". It's a gene that takes on ability when some sort of expression of the gene is needed. Claire was in the fire, so she regenerated. Nathan must have spend a lot of time in the air or something. Peter connects with people. Hiro knew all about time and space and also worked in a place where time was very important and a major focus... it all falls into place. I think Peter also escaped the explosion with Nathan and stuff. Sylar might have just unleashed the explosion, not hurting himself, kind of like what Ted did in the Bennet household. AIM me at gasandfire if you want to talk more... In reference to the genetics being passed on, it’s about a gene that “develops”. In one episode they say that “Claire’s ability hasn’t developed yet”. It’s a gene that takes on ability when some sort of expression of the gene is needed. Claire was in the fire, so she regenerated. Nathan must have spend a lot of time in the air or something. Peter connects with people. Hiro knew all about time and space and also worked in a place where time was very important and a major focus…

it all falls into place. I think Peter also escaped the explosion with Nathan and stuff. Sylar might have just unleashed the explosion, not hurting himself, kind of like what Ted did in the Bennet household.

AIM me at gasandfire if you want to talk more…

]]> By: Jeff Schiller http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2007/04/27/heroes-returns-paradoxes-remain/comment-page-1/#comment-709 Jeff Schiller Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:45:56 +0000 http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2007/04/27/heroes-returns-paradoxes-remain/#comment-709 Marcus: One possibility is Peter chose to keep the scar to remember the explosion (or some tragic event). Another possibility is that Peter can only really use one power at a time and was otherwise occupied when his injury happened... Marcus: One possibility is Peter chose to keep the scar to remember the explosion (or some tragic event). Another possibility is that Peter can only really use one power at a time and was otherwise occupied when his injury happened…

]]> By: Marcus http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2007/04/27/heroes-returns-paradoxes-remain/comment-page-1/#comment-708 Marcus Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:41:12 +0000 http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2007/04/27/heroes-returns-paradoxes-remain/#comment-708 The one that sticks in my mind is how Peter is meant to have a large scar across his face in the future. How is that possible with the healing power he yoinked from Claire? I assume they've got an explanation lined up for that one though. The one that sticks in my mind is how Peter is meant to have a large scar across his face in the future. How is that possible with the healing power he yoinked from Claire? I assume they’ve got an explanation lined up for that one though.

]]> By: binaryspiral http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2007/04/27/heroes-returns-paradoxes-remain/comment-page-1/#comment-707 binaryspiral Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:57:55 +0000 http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2007/04/27/heroes-returns-paradoxes-remain/#comment-707 <i>Isaac knew his death was coming and was ready to die as his one heroic deed</i> This one is a little incorrect. Isaac told Syler that he has already looked into the future and did what needed to be done to stop him. Later Nathan was opening a painting that was sent to him, but only got part way open before Clarie came in. I think Isaac painted a way to defeat Syler and sent it to the people that could do it - making him a hero. Isaac knew his death was coming and was ready to die as his one heroic deed

This one is a little incorrect. Isaac told Syler that he has already looked into the future and did what needed to be done to stop him.

Later Nathan was opening a painting that was sent to him, but only got part way open before Clarie came in.

I think Isaac painted a way to defeat Syler and sent it to the people that could do it – making him a hero.

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