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		<title>By: Marty Mcfly</title>
		<link>http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2007/05/21/heroes-finale-letdown/comment-page-1/#comment-735</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty Mcfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 06:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankyou Mr Schiller, im in total agreement with you in what you said, unfortunately you seem to be one of the few people that actually understands time travel. There really is know way that i can see hiro going back in time from this timeline stopped the bomb. Hiro had virtually nill interaction with Nathan, Claire or Peter,(The ones responsible for peter either exploding or not) once . The only thing i can see that would explain this is the vilian comment made by hiro to nathan, which seems very unlikely.

To be honest i think the writers just got a bit confused themselves, i think the other plot holes in the episode &quot;5 years gone&quot; point to their own misunderstanding timelines they wrote about.
For instance:
- Why did peter have the scar if he had already saved claire and therefore absorbed her ability to heal.
- Why did Hiro&#039;s  timeline depiction in the rooftop building even mention claire&#039;s murder as she had been saved in this future. Surely when future Hiro  went back in time his own future self would have come to a different conclusion on how to stop the bomb.
- Also not only did Future hiros actions save the cheerleader, but it also resulted indirectly in most of the main characters converging on new york, and therefore one would assume dying. So for the plot to make sense, Hiro upon returning to the past not only somehow effects nathan intervening in peter&#039;s fate, but also is responsible for the other characters converging on the place of the explosion.

Despite all this i really did enjoy the episode 5 years gone, just a shame that the whole plot was torn to shreds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankyou Mr Schiller, im in total agreement with you in what you said, unfortunately you seem to be one of the few people that actually understands time travel. There really is know way that i can see hiro going back in time from this timeline stopped the bomb. Hiro had virtually nill interaction with Nathan, Claire or Peter,(The ones responsible for peter either exploding or not) once . The only thing i can see that would explain this is the vilian comment made by hiro to nathan, which seems very unlikely.</p>
<p>To be honest i think the writers just got a bit confused themselves, i think the other plot holes in the episode &#8220;5 years gone&#8221; point to their own misunderstanding timelines they wrote about.<br />
For instance:<br />
- Why did peter have the scar if he had already saved claire and therefore absorbed her ability to heal.<br />
- Why did Hiro&#8217;s  timeline depiction in the rooftop building even mention claire&#8217;s murder as she had been saved in this future. Surely when future Hiro  went back in time his own future self would have come to a different conclusion on how to stop the bomb.<br />
- Also not only did Future hiros actions save the cheerleader, but it also resulted indirectly in most of the main characters converging on new york, and therefore one would assume dying. So for the plot to make sense, Hiro upon returning to the past not only somehow effects nathan intervening in peter&#8217;s fate, but also is responsible for the other characters converging on the place of the explosion.</p>
<p>Despite all this i really did enjoy the episode 5 years gone, just a shame that the whole plot was torn to shreds.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 08:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me like Hiro&#039;s importance was in killing (or rather wounding) Sylar, so Sylar couldn&#039;t prevent everyone from stopping the Peter Bomb.  Since had Sylar still been around, he would&#039;ve kicked Nathan&#039;s ass and Peter would&#039;ve been stuck on the ground till he went boom.  Why Sylar wanted to kill himself in the explosion...well, several ppl above have mentioned the inconsistent characters.

That aside, I think a smarter way to resolve things would&#039;ve been to have Sylar successfully fighting off Nathan &amp; Nikki as Peter was glowing hotter and hotter...then suddenly have Hiro&#039;s sword materialize through him, with Hiro suddenly standing there (thus we&#039;re seeing his ability from the others&#039; standpoint...could go off on a major tangent here about how the writers in multiple earlier episodes don&#039;t correctly portray what Hiro&#039;s ability would look like to anyone observing him...but whatevs).   That way we could&#039;ve had some more satisfying fighting (Sylar vs. flyboy &amp; schizowonderwoman), a clearer necessity for Hiro&#039;s actions, and a proper use of Hiro&#039;s powers...after all, in the finale Hiro materializes several feet away, then RUNS at Sylar with the sword...I mean c&#039;mon, we&#039;ve already seen that Sylar is quicker than that.

But of course all this doesn&#039;t address the simple point that knocking Peter out would calm his agitated ass down.  I just hope he&#039;s actually dead, so we don&#039;t have to listen to him whine through another season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me like Hiro&#8217;s importance was in killing (or rather wounding) Sylar, so Sylar couldn&#8217;t prevent everyone from stopping the Peter Bomb.  Since had Sylar still been around, he would&#8217;ve kicked Nathan&#8217;s ass and Peter would&#8217;ve been stuck on the ground till he went boom.  Why Sylar wanted to kill himself in the explosion&#8230;well, several ppl above have mentioned the inconsistent characters.</p>
<p>That aside, I think a smarter way to resolve things would&#8217;ve been to have Sylar successfully fighting off Nathan &#38; Nikki as Peter was glowing hotter and hotter&#8230;then suddenly have Hiro&#8217;s sword materialize through him, with Hiro suddenly standing there (thus we&#8217;re seeing his ability from the others&#8217; standpoint&#8230;could go off on a major tangent here about how the writers in multiple earlier episodes don&#8217;t correctly portray what Hiro&#8217;s ability would look like to anyone observing him&#8230;but whatevs).   That way we could&#8217;ve had some more satisfying fighting (Sylar vs. flyboy &#38; schizowonderwoman), a clearer necessity for Hiro&#8217;s actions, and a proper use of Hiro&#8217;s powers&#8230;after all, in the finale Hiro materializes several feet away, then RUNS at Sylar with the sword&#8230;I mean c&#8217;mon, we&#8217;ve already seen that Sylar is quicker than that.</p>
<p>But of course all this doesn&#8217;t address the simple point that knocking Peter out would calm his agitated ass down.  I just hope he&#8217;s actually dead, so we don&#8217;t have to listen to him whine through another season.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 22:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good friend of mine has a theory that Nathan flew Peter up into the sky, dropped him with enough time to spare, and flew off.  Who knows, we&#039;ll see :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good friend of mine has a theory that Nathan flew Peter up into the sky, dropped him with enough time to spare, and flew off.  Who knows, we&#8217;ll see <img src='http://www.codedread.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 17:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I don&#039;t get is why nathan didnt just take the gun off claire and shoot peter rather than sacrificing himself needlessly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I don&#8217;t get is why nathan didnt just take the gun off claire and shoot peter rather than sacrificing himself needlessly</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Dobres</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Dobres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 15:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have to agree with Jeff.  Heroes is all about moving to the next plot point, and characters rarely develop in an organic way (one reason I always loved Buffy so much was the ability to pull this off convincingly).  Since the writing is so focused on the bullet points, it&#039;s up to the actors to develop their characters.  Some do it well (Masi Oka, Jack Coleman), some do it very poorly (Zach Quinto, Ali Larter, Haydene Whatsherface).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to agree with Jeff.  Heroes is all about moving to the next plot point, and characters rarely develop in an organic way (one reason I always loved Buffy so much was the ability to pull this off convincingly).  Since the writing is so focused on the bullet points, it&#8217;s up to the actors to develop their characters.  Some do it well (Masi Oka, Jack Coleman), some do it very poorly (Zach Quinto, Ali Larter, Haydene Whatsherface).</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 15:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, big disappointment.  All my friends seem to have really liked it though!

For me the big problem with Heroes is that it&#039;s JUST plot.  The characters make no sense, they only exist to move this bizarre randomly mechanical plot forward, and the plot itself makes very little sense either, nevermind any kind of emotional resonance.

I can&#039;t help but compare the show to Buffy where plot, monsters, powers, etc, took a backseat or at least equal place with the character development, and the big season climaxes featured lots of teamwork, lots of strong character writing, and advanced the plot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, big disappointment.  All my friends seem to have really liked it though!</p>
<p>For me the big problem with Heroes is that it&#8217;s JUST plot.  The characters make no sense, they only exist to move this bizarre randomly mechanical plot forward, and the plot itself makes very little sense either, nevermind any kind of emotional resonance.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help but compare the show to Buffy where plot, monsters, powers, etc, took a backseat or at least equal place with the character development, and the big season climaxes featured lots of teamwork, lots of strong character writing, and advanced the plot.</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 18:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The show needs to seriously prune some characters and tighten up the storyline.
Shallow, useless characters who need to be pruned:
Niki
D.L.
Micah
Parkman

And please enough already of Sylar, he is not a villian, he is a class clown</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The show needs to seriously prune some characters and tighten up the storyline.<br />
Shallow, useless characters who need to be pruned:<br />
Niki<br />
D.L.<br />
Micah<br />
Parkman</p>
<p>And please enough already of Sylar, he is not a villian, he is a class clown</p>
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		<title>By: Kristan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 18:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blah..... What a disappointment! It was like having a really bad orgasm after hours of foreplay.
I watched each and every episode in eager anticipation of my beloved Heroes. Most of the episodes left me satisfied and craving for more...but now, after this deflating finale, I am skeptical about the next season.
I may watch a few episodes in the Fall to see if there is a rejuvenation in the writing or I may have to say Au Revoir to my beloved show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blah&#8230;.. What a disappointment! It was like having a really bad orgasm after hours of foreplay.<br />
I watched each and every episode in eager anticipation of my beloved Heroes. Most of the episodes left me satisfied and craving for more&#8230;but now, after this deflating finale, I am skeptical about the next season.<br />
I may watch a few episodes in the Fall to see if there is a rejuvenation in the writing or I may have to say Au Revoir to my beloved show.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Schiller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Schiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 15:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jess: yeah I definitely get the feeling that budgetary constraints limit the amount of special effects used on the show.  That&#039;s really too bad, maybe they can secure some more for next year...  But hey, it&#039;s definitely not the blockbuster special effect bonanza that Spider-Man 3 was...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jess: yeah I definitely get the feeling that budgetary constraints limit the amount of special effects used on the show.  That&#8217;s really too bad, maybe they can secure some more for next year&#8230;  But hey, it&#8217;s definitely not the blockbuster special effect bonanza that Spider-Man 3 was&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 14:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the finale was a major letdown, too. At the very least, I was hoping for an awesome showdown between Peter and Sylar where Peter would use all his absorbed powers in conjunction to defeat Sylar. Oh, well...maybe budgetary issues limited what they could do in the final scene?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the finale was a major letdown, too. At the very least, I was hoping for an awesome showdown between Peter and Sylar where Peter would use all his absorbed powers in conjunction to defeat Sylar. Oh, well&#8230;maybe budgetary issues limited what they could do in the final scene?</p>
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