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		<title>By: Jeff Schiller</title>
		<link>http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2008/07/02/svg-web-stats-20/comment-page-1/#comment-1059</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Schiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, I guess I was wrong.  The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/REC-SMIL2-20051213/smil21.html#smil-timing-Timing-EventValueSyntax&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SMIL Spec&lt;/a&gt; says that the id part of the event is not necessarily the current target (in other words, it may still be caught on bubbling).



In that case, I should be able to prevent bubbling or mouseover/mouseout events inside my checkboxes, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, I guess I was wrong.  The <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/REC-SMIL2-20051213/smil21.html#smil-timing-Timing-EventValueSyntax" rel="nofollow">SMIL Spec</a> says that the id part of the event is not necessarily the current target (in other words, it may still be caught on bubbling).</p>
<p>In that case, I should be able to prevent bubbling or mouseover/mouseout events inside my checkboxes, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Schiller</title>
		<link>http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2008/07/02/svg-web-stats-20/comment-page-1/#comment-1058</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Schiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Erik.  But if what you&#039;re saying is true, I should be able to to do:



&lt;pre style=&quot;font-size:small&quot;&gt;

&lt;g id=&quot;legend&quot;&gt;

  &lt;animateTransform type=&quot;scale&quot; from=&quot;0.5 0.5&quot; to=&quot;1.0 1.0&quot; begin=&quot;&lt;b style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;legend.&lt;/b&gt;mouseover&quot; .../&gt;

  &lt;animateTransform type=&quot;scale&quot; from=&quot;1.0 1.0&quot; to=&quot;0.5 0.5&quot; begin=&quot;&lt;b style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;legend.&lt;/b&gt;mouseout&quot;  .../&gt;

  .... lots of other stuff that might have other mouse event triggers ...

&lt;/g&gt;

&lt;/pre&gt;



Shouldn&#039;t putting &quot;legend.&quot; on the event names prevent the bubbling events from triggering the scaling animation?  It didn&#039;t when I tried this in the morning.



And I can&#039;t use pointer-events=&quot;none&quot; because I actually want mouse click events to trigger events (toggling the checkmark and redrawing the graph, for instance).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Erik.  But if what you&#8217;re saying is true, I should be able to to do:</p>
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&#60;g id="legend">

  &#60;animateTransform type="scale" from="0.5 0.5" to="1.0 1.0" begin="<b style="color:red">legend.</b>mouseover" .../>

  &#60;animateTransform type="scale" from="1.0 1.0" to="0.5 0.5" begin="<b style="color:red">legend.</b>mouseout"  .../>

  .... lots of other stuff that might have other mouse event triggers ...

&#60;/g>
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<p>Shouldn&#8217;t putting &#8220;legend.&#8221; on the event names prevent the bubbling events from triggering the scaling animation?  It didn&#8217;t when I tried this in the morning.</p>
<p>And I can&#8217;t use pointer-events=&#8221;none&#8221; because I actually want mouse click events to trigger events (toggling the checkmark and redrawing the graph, for instance).</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Dahlström</title>
		<link>http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2008/07/02/svg-web-stats-20/comment-page-1/#comment-1057</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Dahlström</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 09:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Breakdown of the legend problem:



1. The &#039;mouseover&#039; and &#039;mouseout&#039; events bubble

2. When you mouseover something in the &#039;g&#039; element in the legend that&#039;s fine, it triggers the in-animation

3. If the cursor is moved from the element that got the &#039;mouseover&#039; originally (the target of the event) then that element will get a &#039;mouseout&#039; event, which will bubble up to the &#039;g&#039; element triggering the out-animation

4. The element that was moused over gets the &#039;mouseover&#039; event, which bubbles to the &#039;g&#039; element and triggers the in-animation



Since only one event is handled at a time, this looks &#039;jittery&#039;. One way to get away from the problem is to use pointer-events=&quot;none&quot; to ensure that there&#039;s only one element inside the &#039;g&#039; that is the target of the mouse events.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breakdown of the legend problem:</p>
<p>1. The &#8216;mouseover&#8217; and &#8216;mouseout&#8217; events bubble</p>
<p>2. When you mouseover something in the &#8216;g&#8217; element in the legend that&#8217;s fine, it triggers the in-animation</p>
<p>3. If the cursor is moved from the element that got the &#8216;mouseover&#8217; originally (the target of the event) then that element will get a &#8216;mouseout&#8217; event, which will bubble up to the &#8216;g&#8217; element triggering the out-animation</p>
<p>4. The element that was moused over gets the &#8216;mouseover&#8217; event, which bubbles to the &#8216;g&#8217; element and triggers the in-animation</p>
<p>Since only one event is handled at a time, this looks &#8216;jittery&#8217;. One way to get away from the problem is to use pointer-events=&#8221;none&#8221; to ensure that there&#8217;s only one element inside the &#8216;g&#8217; that is the target of the mouse events.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Dahlström</title>
		<link>http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2008/07/02/svg-web-stats-20/comment-page-1/#comment-1056</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Dahlström</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the report, we&#039;re looking into the mouseevent issues. Adding an eventlistener for mouseover/mouseout to do some event logging will tell you what happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the report, we&#8217;re looking into the mouseevent issues. Adding an eventlistener for mouseover/mouseout to do some event logging will tell you what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: sribharath</title>
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		<dc:creator>sribharath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 07:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you,very nice analysis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you,very nice analysis</p>
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		<title>By: stelt</title>
		<link>http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2008/07/02/svg-web-stats-20/comment-page-1/#comment-1054</link>
		<dc:creator>stelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the mouseover. No longer anything falling off the screen. Though at the top there&#039;s no whitespace now. HELP button is exactly against the edge. Title is about 2 pixels away from it. Perfect enough for me though. On some other sites i had seen 1 or 2 of those very alternative browsers at still almost 1%. Never mind, it&#039;s awesome as it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the mouseover. No longer anything falling off the screen. Though at the top there&#8217;s no whitespace now. HELP button is exactly against the edge. Title is about 2 pixels away from it. Perfect enough for me though. On some other sites i had seen 1 or 2 of those very alternative browsers at still almost 1%. Never mind, it&#8217;s awesome as it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Schiller</title>
		<link>http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2008/07/02/svg-web-stats-20/comment-page-1/#comment-1053</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Schiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Shelley, @stelt:  Thanks!



&quot;everything below half way the diagonal arrows falls outside my maximized browserwindow&quot; =&gt; Please tell me if this is fixed now.



&quot;Maybe have a mouseover text on the browser family name for combined percentages&quot; =&gt; Done.



Change to Gecko/WebKit isn&#039;t so simple.  I am really only displaying Firefox and Safari - the other browsers that are based on those engines are not yet at a significant percentage where they merit display (no offense to anyone!).  Generally all other browsers (Netscape, Konqueror, K-Meleon, Epiphany, OmniWeb, Flock, Seamonkey, Camino, Iceweasel, iCab) account for less than a combined 1% of my total traffic.  One day maybe I&#039;ll rewrite my log file crunching so that it does include all &#039;family&#039; derivatives, but not today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shelley, @stelt:  Thanks!</p>
<p>&#8220;everything below half way the diagonal arrows falls outside my maximized browserwindow&#8221; => Please tell me if this is fixed now.</p>
<p>&#8220;Maybe have a mouseover text on the browser family name for combined percentages&#8221; => Done.</p>
<p>Change to Gecko/WebKit isn&#8217;t so simple.  I am really only displaying Firefox and Safari &#8211; the other browsers that are based on those engines are not yet at a significant percentage where they merit display (no offense to anyone!).  Generally all other browsers (Netscape, Konqueror, K-Meleon, Epiphany, OmniWeb, Flock, Seamonkey, Camino, Iceweasel, iCab) account for less than a combined 1% of my total traffic.  One day maybe I&#8217;ll rewrite my log file crunching so that it does include all &#8216;family&#8217; derivatives, but not today.</p>
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		<title>By: Shelley</title>
		<link>http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2008/07/02/svg-web-stats-20/comment-page-1/#comment-1052</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s beautiful, Jeff. Hey, I like the morphing comments fields.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s beautiful, Jeff. Hey, I like the morphing comments fields.</p>
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		<title>By: stelt</title>
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		<dc:creator>stelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have two click &quot;Submit Comment&quot; twice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two click &#8220;Submit Comment&#8221; twice.</p>
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		<title>By: stelt</title>
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		<dc:creator>stelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very, very nice. Some remarks:

- everything below half way the diagonal arrows falls outside my maximized browserwindow (if i go into fullscreen mode the problem is solved). That&#039;s on Firefox 3

- Maybe change &quot;Firefox other&quot; into &quot;Gecko other&quot; ? (Because of SeaMonkey, Camino, ..)

- Maybe change &quot;Safari other&quot; into &quot;WebKit other&quot; ? (Because of OmniWeb, Konqueror, ...)

- Maybe have a mouseover text on the browser family name for combined percentages

- added it to http://svg.startpagina.nl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very, very nice. Some remarks:</p>
<p>- everything below half way the diagonal arrows falls outside my maximized browserwindow (if i go into fullscreen mode the problem is solved). That&#8217;s on Firefox 3</p>
<p>- Maybe change &#8220;Firefox other&#8221; into &#8220;Gecko other&#8221; ? (Because of SeaMonkey, Camino, ..)</p>
<p>- Maybe change &#8220;Safari other&#8221; into &#8220;WebKit other&#8221; ? (Because of OmniWeb, Konqueror, &#8230;)</p>
<p>- Maybe have a mouseover text on the browser family name for combined percentages</p>
<p>- added it to <a href="http://svg.startpagina.nl" rel="nofollow">http://svg.startpagina.nl</a></p>
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