Comments on: More SVG Support Scores… and Konqueror? http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2009/03/29/more-svg-support-scores-and-konqueror/ Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:16:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: dani http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2009/03/29/more-svg-support-scores-and-konqueror/comment-page-1/#comment-1237 dani Sat, 18 Apr 2009 22:53:14 +0000 http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2009/03/29/more-svg-support-scores-and-konqueror/#comment-1237 Sorry, no information for the khtml. For the svg animation on fx 3.6pre, I've to enable <code>svg.smil.enabled</code> to <code>true</code>. I could see the svg partial animation only. Opera 9.6* still better. Sorry, no information for the khtml.

For the svg animation on fx 3.6pre, I’ve to enable svg.smil.enabled to true. I could see the svg partial animation only. Opera 9.6* still better.

]]> By: Jeff Schiller http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2009/03/29/more-svg-support-scores-and-konqueror/comment-page-1/#comment-1236 Jeff Schiller Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:33:16 +0000 http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2009/03/29/more-svg-support-scores-and-konqueror/#comment-1236 @taken: Thanks for the information here! Somehow I missed this. So are you saying that the GSOC project hasn't made it over the line yet? Is the existing SVG implementation in Konq 4.2.1 coming from KSVG, KSVG2 or something else? @taken: Thanks for the information here! Somehow I missed this. So are you saying that the GSOC project hasn’t made it over the line yet? Is the existing SVG implementation in Konq 4.2.1 coming from KSVG, KSVG2 or something else?

]]> By: taken http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2009/03/29/more-svg-support-scores-and-konqueror/comment-page-1/#comment-1235 taken Tue, 31 Mar 2009 06:03:46 +0000 http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2009/03/29/more-svg-support-scores-and-konqueror/#comment-1235 At Google Summer of Code 2008, there was a project to port WebKit's SVG implementation to KHTML. http://vtokarev.wordpress.com/2008/07/22/gsoc-svg-now-konq-knows-how-to-write/ http://code.google.com/soc/2008/kde/appinfo.html?csaid=A785D7E84951DE33 KHTML 4 still lucks SVG support, though. BTW, you can use WebKit on Konqueror on Kubuntu by installing "webkitkde" package. Then you can select View -> View Mode -> WebKit. # I tested that on Konqueror 4.1.4/Ubuntu 8.10 At Google Summer of Code 2008, there was a project to port WebKit’s SVG implementation to KHTML.

http://vtokarev.wordpress.com/2008/07/22/gsoc-svg-now-konq-knows-how-to-write/

http://code.google.com/soc/2008/kde/appinfo.html?csaid=A785D7E84951DE33

KHTML 4 still lucks SVG support, though.

BTW, you can use WebKit on Konqueror on Kubuntu by installing “webkitkde” package. Then you can select View -> View Mode -> WebKit.

# I tested that on Konqueror 4.1.4/Ubuntu 8.10

]]> By: Chris Lilley http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2009/03/29/more-svg-support-scores-and-konqueror/comment-page-1/#comment-1234 Chris Lilley Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:25:10 +0000 http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2009/03/29/more-svg-support-scores-and-konqueror/#comment-1234 another reason recently given (for failing Acid 3) "Because Standards Not Official" http://www.osnews.com/story/21193/_IE8_Does_Not_Pass_Acid3_Because_Standards_Not_Official_ apparently, SVG 1.1 and DOM Level 2 are still drafts. They believe. On to KSVG - yes, weird. I will see if I can find whats up there with the lack of current web page. Possibly they are in mid churn (the initial code direction was KDOM and KSVG2 -> Webkit, now its more the other way round). another reason recently given (for failing Acid 3) “Because Standards Not Official”

http://www.osnews.com/story/21193/_IE8_Does_Not_Pass_Acid3_Because_Standards_Not_Official_

apparently, SVG 1.1 and DOM Level 2 are still drafts. They believe.

On to KSVG – yes, weird. I will see if I can find whats up there with the lack of current web page. Possibly they are in mid churn (the initial code direction was KDOM and KSVG2 -> Webkit, now its more the other way round).

]]> By: stelt http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2009/03/29/more-svg-support-scores-and-konqueror/comment-page-1/#comment-1233 stelt Mon, 30 Mar 2009 07:34:46 +0000 http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2009/03/29/more-svg-support-scores-and-konqueror/#comment-1233 according to http://blog.wired.com/business/2009/01/more-details-ab.html : MS said :"There is no official roadmap for IE9, but native SVG support is likely." Though time and time again SVG is asked for rather strongly by the market, many are rather skeptical, have seen too many empty promises. Is it again like MS riding you like a donkey, holding a carrot on a stick in front of you, making you walk towards it, but never coming closer really? And MS rather have us use their proprietary SilVerliGht instead. Some possible scenarios? -no SVG support in IE9 -SVG support on top of Silverlight -no real SVG support, but a faulty version. remember embrace, extend, ...? -outstanding really native SVG support As MS has lost respect with many web developers (IE's bad standards support limits options for web developers, and brings on a lot of extra hassle), it could really use to regain some respect from them. Outstanding really native SVG support would certainly help on that a lot. And with an IE marketshare that has been dropping for years, this might just be the thing MS needs. according to http://blog.wired.com/business/2009/01/more-details-ab.html :

MS said :”There is no official roadmap for IE9, but native SVG support is likely.”

Though time and time again SVG is asked for rather strongly by the market,

many are rather skeptical, have seen too many empty promises. Is it again like MS riding you like a donkey, holding a carrot on a stick in front of you, making you walk towards it, but never coming closer really?

And MS rather have us use their proprietary SilVerliGht instead.

Some possible scenarios?

-no SVG support in IE9

-SVG support on top of Silverlight

-no real SVG support, but a faulty version. remember embrace, extend, …?

-outstanding really native SVG support

As MS has lost respect with many web developers (IE’s bad standards support limits options for web developers, and brings on a lot of extra hassle), it could really use to regain some respect from them. Outstanding really native SVG support would certainly help on that a lot. And with an IE marketshare that has been dropping for years, this might just be the thing MS needs.

]]> By: mabdul http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2009/03/29/more-svg-support-scores-and-konqueror/comment-page-1/#comment-1232 mabdul Mon, 30 Mar 2009 07:29:39 +0000 http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2009/03/29/more-svg-support-scores-and-konqueror/#comment-1232 and they have vml! their own "standard" by iso, invented by ms. They have the same scripting language under different names since ie 5.5! and they have vml! their own “standard” by iso, invented by ms. They have the same scripting language under different names since ie 5.5!

]]> By: Jeff Schiller http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2009/03/29/more-svg-support-scores-and-konqueror/comment-page-1/#comment-1231 Jeff Schiller Mon, 30 Mar 2009 01:14:01 +0000 http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2009/03/29/more-svg-support-scores-and-konqueror/#comment-1231 I have ideas, yes. :) According to Microsoft, the reasons they do not yet support IE natively in SVG are: <ol> <li>They haven't had time/resources enough for it (needed to focus on CSS 2.1 and HTML5 improvements in IE8)</li> <li>They haven't had enough demand/complaints for it yet</li> <li>They are <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/20/ie_8_standards_future/" rel="nofollow">confused</a> about which spec to support (SVGF 1.1, SVGT 1.2)</li> </ol> I have ideas, yes. :)

According to Microsoft, the reasons they do not yet support IE natively in SVG are:

  1. They haven’t had time/resources enough for it (needed to focus on CSS 2.1 and HTML5 improvements in IE8)
  2. They haven’t had enough demand/complaints for it yet
  3. They are confused about which spec to support (SVGF 1.1, SVGT 1.2)
]]> By: Chas4 http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2009/03/29/more-svg-support-scores-and-konqueror/comment-page-1/#comment-1230 Chas4 Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:11:04 +0000 http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2009/03/29/more-svg-support-scores-and-konqueror/#comment-1230 Any idea why Microsoft refuses to add native support for SVG in IE? Any idea why Microsoft refuses to add native support for SVG in IE?

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