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		<title>Webkit Nightly: Not Smiling</title>
		<link>http://www.codedread.com/blog/archives/2008/03/26/webkit-nightly-not-smiling/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[After the announcement that the Apple developers have turned on their SMIL support in order to pass Acid3 test, I was excited enough to download the MacOS nightly and run through the SVG animation test suite. I was pretty disappointed. Out of 58 tests involving animation, WebKit r31344 fails 54, gets 3 of the tests [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><object type="image/svg+xml" width="100" height="100" align="right" hspace="10" data="http://codedread.com/clipart/acid.svgz"><span/></object>After the <a href="http://webkit.org/blog/173/webkit-achieves-acid3-100100-in-public-build/">announcement</a> that the Apple developers have turned on their <a href="http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/" title="Synchronized Multimedia Integration Language">SMIL</a> support in order to pass <a href="http://acid3.acidtests.org/">Acid3 test</a>, I was excited enough to download the <a href="http://nightly.webkit.org/">MacOS nightly</a> and run through the SVG animation <a href="http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Test/20061213/htmlObjectHarness/full-index.html">test suite</a>.  I was pretty disappointed.  <span id="more-445"></span></p>
<p>Out of 58 tests involving animation, WebKit r31344 fails 54, gets 3 of the tests partially right and only gets 1 test to completely pass.  To put this into &#8216;acid&#8217; terms, this means that WebKit r31344 gets a score of 5/116 when it comes to SVG animation support (as compared to Opera 9.5&#8242;s 110/116).  See my top-secret scoring mechanism <a href="http://www.codedread.com/svg-support.php">here</a>.</p>
<p><object type="image/svg+xml" width="100" height="100" align="left" hspace="10" data="http://codedread.com/clipart/smile.svgz"><span/></object>My concern at this point is that releasing such a nonconforming SMIL implementation into the wild will just frustrate authors and users.  But I suppose there isn&#8217;t much SMIL out there at the moment.  Here&#8217;s one data point, at least:  My menus no longer animate properly in WebKit r31344, producing &#8216;fluttering&#8217; icons&#8230;  Is there a way I can turn off WebKit&#8217;s native SMIL when visiting my website?  Does anyone know of any other sites out there using SMIL in their UI?</p>
<p><object type="image/svg+xml" width="100" height="100" align="right" hspace="10" data="http://codedread.com/clipart/apple.svgz"><span/></object>Anyway, I&#8217;m very much looking forward to future Webkit releases that will improve upon the SMIL implementation &#8211; and please release the build for Windows too.  And I would be remiss if I didn&#8217;t congratulate the WebKit team for releasing a downloadable application that shows 100/100 on Acid3.  Hopefully this post is just a little bit of cold water in the face to those fans thinking that WebKit is somehow &#8220;perfect&#8221; <img src='http://www.codedread.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Acid3: Neck-and-Neck</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[WebKit and Opera are really scrambling to be the first browser to fully pass Acid 3. First, Opera claimed they were at 100/100 in a private build, then Ian corrected the test (based on feedback from Apple developers), presumably knocking Opera back to 99/100. And just now, the WebKit guys have turned on SVG Animation [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><object type="image/svg+xml" width="100" height="100" align="right" hspace="10" data="http://codedread.com/clipart/acid.svgz"><span/></object>WebKit and Opera are <em>really</em> scrambling to be the first browser to fully pass <a href="http://acid3.acidtests.org/">Acid 3</a>.  First, <a href="http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2008/03/26/opera-and-the-acid3-test">Opera claimed</a> they were at 100/100 in a private build, then <a href="http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1206578003&#038;count=1">Ian corrected the test</a> (based on feedback from Apple developers), presumably knocking Opera back to 99/100.  And just now, the WebKit guys have <a href="http://webkit.org/blog/172/enabling-svg-animation-acid3-99100/">turned on SVG Animation</a> (SMIL) in their nightly builds, putting them also at 99/100.  This was a surprise to me, since I had heard that their SMIL implementation was not ready for prime-time, so to speak.  Oh well, this is great &#8211; now we have a second browser implementing SMIL natively and we can truly start pushing for interoperable solutions.</p>
<p>What does it mean for Apple and Opera fans?  Probably a lot.  What does it mean for web standardistas?  Apple and Opera care (more?).  What does this all actually mean for web developers at the moment?  Not a single thing.  Oh well, time to tally up my own similarly-meaningless <a href="http://www.codedread.com/svg-support.php">SVG support</a> score&#8230;</p>
<p>[Update 10:25 PM CST: <a href="http://webkit.org/blog/173/webkit-achieves-acid3-100100-in-public-build/">Apple</a> did it.  They are the first to achieve 100/100 in Acid3 with a publicly downloadable browser (even if it is only for MacOS)]</p>
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