{"id":3913,"date":"2022-04-14T08:06:00","date_gmt":"2022-04-14T15:06:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.codedread.com\/comicbooks\/?p=3913"},"modified":"2024-10-20T10:06:29","modified_gmt":"2024-10-20T17:06:29","slug":"704-readers-demand-continuity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.codedread.com\/comicbooks\/704-readers-demand-continuity\/","title":{"rendered":"704 &#8211; Readers Demand Continuity"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.codedread.com\/comicbooks\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/195907-atlantis-demand-continuity.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"724\" height=\"884\" src=\"https:\/\/www.codedread.com\/comicbooks\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/195907-atlantis-demand-continuity.png\" alt=\"A panel from Adventure Comics #264, July 1959\" class=\"wp-image-3914\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.codedread.com\/comicbooks\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/195907-atlantis-demand-continuity.png 724w, https:\/\/www.codedread.com\/comicbooks\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/195907-atlantis-demand-continuity-246x300.png 246w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 724px) 100vw, 724px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>A panel from Adventure Comics #264, July 1959<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>In Adventure Comics #264 (July 1959), reader John B. Beach questions why <a href=\"https:\/\/www.codedread.com\/comicbooks\/?p=3832\">Aquaman&#8217;s Atlanteans<\/a> have legs while <a href=\"https:\/\/www.codedread.com\/comicbooks\/?p=3864\">Lori Lemaris&#8217; Atlanteans<\/a> have fish tails. It&#8217;s a pretty decent question, given DC already announced that Superman and Aquaman share the same universe (the story has not been published yet though).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I thought the response from DC&#8217;s editor was pretty interesting:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>&#8220;Are you serious? We publish fiction, not documented history. Different stories present different conditions on different worlds. If not, all stories would be monotonously alike\u2026 If writers didn&#8217;t use their imagination to vary conditions, all comic book stories and science fiction movies would become so repetitious you&#8217;d soon lose interest.&#8221;<\/p><cite>Julius Schwartz&#8217; response to why Atlanteans look different with different DC characters, Adventure Comics #264.<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>You can almost see the dawning realization in Schwartz&#8217; response of what he has created. The introduction of the letters page actually led to this tension between readers and creators. Giving readers a place to question slip-ups and goofs on the writers parts, with editors giving clever explanations, created a feedback loop that led to smarter stories and sharper readers. It also seeded the ground for new story ideas, crossovers with characters, team-ups, etc.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Within a few years, Marvel would demonstrate that a consistent world of inter-connected characters and events, despite being a massive coordination of effort, is actually a <em>drawing force<\/em> for readers who love to nerd out about stuff like this. DC eventually came to realize this too around the same time with several ret-cons of their own to try to establish consistency. Interestingly, the seemingly simple concept of DC&#8217;s multiverse (starting with the Flash) ultimately led to never-ending publisher-wide crossover events like <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths\">Crisis on Infinite Earths<\/a> to reboot histories and universes and try to resolve conflicts in histories.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The inter-connectedness of these massive bodies of intellectual property pervaded film and video too, resulting in things like 1990s <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/DC_Animated_Universe\">DC Animated Universe<\/a>, 2010s <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Arrowverse\">CW&#8217;s Arrowverse<\/a> and the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Marvel_Cinematic_Universe\">Marvel Cinematic Universe<\/a>. Mirroring the comics of the 1960s, Marvel&#8217;s TV and films have been more-or-less consistent since around 2008, modulo a few rights to characters that were licensed outside of Marvel Studios (and Spider-Man: No Way Home has smoothed over a bit more now). Unfortunately once again, DC can&#8217;t seem to get their act together (or instinctively adopted Julius Schwartz&#8217; philosophy from the 1950s) resulting in several TV shows and films of differing continuities loosely explained in some contexts as a multiverse. I guess when there&#8217;s so much money to be made, the effort to maintain continuity just wasn&#8217;t worth it for them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I was impressed with DC&#8217;s willingness to allow Ezra Miller&#8217;s film version of the Flash to be part of the TV Flash&#8217;s crossover event though! I wonder if The Flash (2022) will do the same and acknowledge those TV shows? Will Grant Gustin appear in the 2022 film?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In Adventure Comics #264 (July 1959), reader John B. Beach questions why Aquaman&#8217;s Atlanteans have legs while Lori Lemaris&#8217; Atlanteans have fish tails. It&#8217;s a pretty decent question, given DC already announced that Superman and Aquaman share the same universe (the story has not been published yet though). I thought the response from DC&#8217;s editor [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":3914,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[613,225,215,226,271,14,631,452,485,347,626,630,528],"class_list":["post-3913","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-613","tag-aquaman","tag-arrowverse","tag-atlantis","tag-continuity","tag-dc","tag-dc-animated-universe","tag-discontinuity","tag-julius-schwartz","tag-letters-column","tag-lori-lemaris","tag-marvel-cinematic-universe","tag-multiverse"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.codedread.com\/comicbooks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3913","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.codedread.com\/comicbooks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.codedread.com\/comicbooks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.codedread.com\/comicbooks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.codedread.com\/comicbooks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3913"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.codedread.com\/comicbooks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3913\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4683,"href":"https:\/\/www.codedread.com\/comicbooks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3913\/revisions\/4683"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.codedread.com\/comicbooks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3914"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.codedread.com\/comicbooks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3913"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.codedread.com\/comicbooks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3913"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.codedread.com\/comicbooks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3913"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}